Rumors float around the Internet questioning when Microsoft will ship a Blu-ray enabled Xbox 360 or add-on device like they did with the, now failed, HD-DVD. At CES 09 Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s Entertainment & Devices division, says this request is “way down the list.”
Mr. Bach had some great selling points as to why a Blu-ray player has little value in the world of Xbox 360. The primary reason, of course, being the Xbox 360 developers cannot take advantage of Blu-ray as a development platform for games. This was the price Sony, or the consumer, paid to own a PlayStation 3 since all games are printed on the media and are, in effect, Blu-ray “capable.”
We say capable because not all (any?) PlayStation 3 games currently make full use of the Blu-ray media. Many games will reprint the game on the media for optimization purposes, fill the game with international voice overs for all countries or, otherwise, stuff the media with something that will serve a useful purpose. Sony has near-future-proofed their device by giving game developers years of growth in terms of utilizing the Blu-ray capacity.
Microsoft chose to take the smaller old-style DVD format for games and media. Adding the HD-DVD didn’t add a large deal of risk because, as we saw, they can discontinue the model and not change their core gaming demographic. We still laughed a bit at them, but that was where it ended. Bach also said that it’s not really a great economic time to push a new 360 SKU on potential customers with additional cost just for Blu-ray movies playback.
They could add Blu-ray game development support as well but that would just alienate the “28 million Xboxes” they have already shipped.
“OK, let me get this straight: I’m going to add something to the product that’s going to raise the cost, which means the price goes up, consumers aren’t asking for it, and by the way, my game developers can’t use it.” (gamespot)
Of course, the first thing that came to our mind was “well, you did it for HD-DVD, how is Blu-ray different?” The key areas we can think of really come down to Blu-ray is a Sony technology and they are a direct competitor and, to top it off, HD-DVD allowed them to fight against the PS3 at the media level of the industry. They minimized the risk by making the product a secondary add-on device and, if HD-DVD had won, they’d have the winning format already under production (still not for games).
It seems Microsoft has changed their battle plans a little. They started out talking up the media aspects of the 360, using Media Center, renting movies and TV shows and had the HD-DVD as a subproduct. Today, they’re investing in Netflix for media and everything else favors the games.
Which is fine, we like games.
are u guys aware that I’m from philippines coz people in the philippines are stupid coz they don’t know whats the difference between a stupid warcraft 3 mod dota which I call poor man’s game and the difference between world of warcraft . People here stupid they brag about their dota skills .how bout they play wow and get their ass kicked
Yay, 2 hours!
Oliver, please calm down and discuss the podcast in the comments, also AFTER listening to it.
Anyway, Paul, get ready to be disappointed by the final dungeon and the final boss in Skyward Sword. And I don’t think that the open world in Arkham City takes anything away from the game. We probably have different tastes, but I love searching for all the Riddler Trophies and sidequests in the city, it makes it come alive.
Best games: Arkham City, Portal 2, Skyward Sword
Most surprisingly fun games: Rayman Origins, Bulletstorm, Bastion
@Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony all pull support from SOPA – sort of: At least we now know that the SOPA bill is only getting weaker, because it is an absolute disaster in its current form.
@QOTW: I think I would prefer playing on a handheld console, because there aren’t many mobile games that I would want to play.
@Full games vs smaller games on handhelds, I agree with Jonah.
The reason why the DS was so successful was that it appealed to people who werent necessarily gamers before. People who got attracted to playing Brain Training and Professor Layton’s games. While the PSP kept on pushing games like God of War Chains of Olympus and what not. And while you can’t say PSP failed in sales, it was pretty well beaten up by DS world wide.
@Game I played the most
Hard one.. Either Darkfall Online, or TES Oblivion (I keep revisiting this game, one of my favourites of all times)
@Game that disappointed me the most
I havent tried that many new games this year, so even though I’m loving it, Ill have to go with TES Skyrim. Don’t get me wrong, it is a brilliant game, but the series have indeed been dumbed down a lot in this one. It lost complexity to get more action. Don’t think Skyrim will be as epic as Oblivion or Morrowind, but it is still a great game.
@SOPA backlash
This is something that concerns me as a web developer. The problem with SOPA is that it was not only created by lobbies to protect their interests but its an overzealous measure that will affect content broadcasting authors more than pirates. You share a movie of yourself singing Sinatra on Youtube and someone will tell you to take it down or you ISP might cut your service.
This cripples what the Internet is all about, sharing content! As for companies that are now withdrawing their support, I am not a customer of neither Sony, MS or Apple, I do have Nintendo consoles and my business with them will be reviewed. All my domains WILL be taken out of Godaddy as they had no excuse to support something like this in the first place, if they understood the media where they work in, they would be expecting this reaction from the comunity. Note that I am not a USA citizen, but what people tend to forget is that the lobbies only need to open a precedent to move to Europe.
As Jordan said: “The Internet would not be able to function under this law” so its clear that people who back it do not understand the Internet or do not understand SOPA.
@QOTW
Mobile device, specifically an Android Tablet.
I guess I need to start doing smaller comments here in order to have them read on the Podcast :p
BTW one thing I’m really excited about, although I’m not sure it is for 2012
The remake of XCom – Enemy Unknown, which was one of the best games I’ve ever played.
@Console/Handhelds: I have an original PSP, regular DS (the red Mario Kart edition) and all three current consoles, but I still prefer to do my gaming on consoles. When I lived in Tokyo and New York, where I did have a 20 – 40 minute commute, depending on the time of day, I played my hand helds a bit more. But, in the end, I got the PSP because it could not only game, but also access the Internet and play movies and music. Since getting Kojima to sign my copy of Peace Walker in summer 2010, I haven’t touched my PSP. And the only time I use my DS is for the Japanese dictionary software I bought in Japan. When I was a kid in the countryside, hand helds were great platforms because they didn’t vie for TV access and let me be more independent, so to speak. Now that I have 20 magazine subscriptions, the Internet (in general) and other consoles, hand helds don’t appeal to me as much, although I do still salivate at their shiny.
@sony microsoft nintendo pulls support on sopa
Basically what they are doing here is protecting their company coz I think most of the gamers out there are downloading stuff on the internet and most of the downloads out there are not obeying sopa .as for me I only download I don’t spend for games
@ wiiu as I said waste of money.im not a sony fan but I do like psps but I still hate the ps3
@ qotw
I would more likely play a handheld console coz there are better games on portable consoles . I’d play on a mobile device if they have a working monster hunter in it
The best game I played in 2011 is minecraft and monster hunter series since these are the only games I even play lol .can u guys tell your computer specs coz I’m really curious about it
guys Can u answer my question.is tf2 a mod for halflife 2 or is it a stand alone or could it be both.
Team Fortress 1 was a mod. Team Fortress 2 is not.