I remember a day when old RPG games had either a level cap or a definite ending. From Pool of Radiance to Secrets of the Silver Blades to Final Fantasy the game had a final boss or stage and often had some type of level cap. Today, gamers don’t want it to end, they’d rather have the option to wonder around aimlessly or completing minor quests in order to soak up every ounce of money they spent on the title.
Now even Bethesda is saying “we’ve learned our lesson” from the whiplash of ending their game title and capping levels. Gamers want to go back and re-try content they missed, they want to run side quests and talk to everyone in the world they want to grind themselves to über powerful levels and become a god in their fantasy world. Can you blame them?
You can’t really blame them for wanting to maximize the content, although it’s slightly more evolved than RPG’s of old. Perhaps it was World of Warcraft and other MMORPG’s that brought us to the stage in life where we all want to squeeze every last RPG dime out of the title. As a kid I wondered the world of Hyrule and covered every tile of graphical color, burned every bush, bombed every stone looking for all the content. However, even Zelda had an end with scrolling credits – you didn’t just land on a platform with your master sword and a dream.
Other titles have used level caps to limit you and draw you into the next release of the game. This was popular in the D&D world because the game is designed to target specific levels of difficulty. They may only allow you to gain level 10 because the enemies are no tougher than level 13, allowing the challenge to be good but not overwhelming. If they allow you to get to level 50 they’d have to design the game so all the enemies grow powerful along with you — that’s not always a desired result.
Final Fantasy is a popular franchise that typically allows you to grow infinitely powerful depending on how much time you want to spend repeat killing the same enemies. Gamers aren’t always into the grind, they just want to grind “enough” to make the challenges a little more do-able.
Today, however, with larger storage capacity, larger development teams and the desire to build more value into your gameplay experience titles have dozens of side quests and sub-plots that are totally optional. The result of so many sub-quests results in a player who is much more powerful at the end of those quests compared to a player who sticks to the narrow path of the main plot. So, games much grow dynamically challenging to keep the fun per dollar high.
Do you like your RPG’s to have a definite end and a high but capped level?
Hearing about Drones delivering packages I have to agree that will be abused and people will attempt to steal and break them. I’m sure the paranoid people will think they are being used to track everyone.
On the continuing discussion of boss battles I agree with Paul that just because there are bad implementations of it doesn’t make it a bad concept idea. I think Jada Empire was a very narrative game and had just fine boss battles. I do agree there are games that don’t need them or have them in a way that doesn’t make sense.
I was watching a PS4 game about Zombies, the hero went through hordes of zombies with ease until he came up against some human bikers. I watched as he drove a car through several of the bikers causing explosions and the bikers just continued somehow to survive. Then after an some invisible timer ran out a Boss Biker suddenly appeared.
The Boss Biker rode a huge bike that spewed fire forth and had grinding blades in front of it. Otherwise the bike was unarmored and the hero free to pump several dozen rounds of blood splattering shots into the guy. Slowly lowering the the large life meter.
A boss battle like that is a slag and not fun. I do have to say also my favorite part of Fable 2 was indeed being able to kill the final guy and interrupting his evil overlord speech.
Quest For Glory series was good at having multiply paths to victory depending on what character build you went with.
QOTW: GTA also had a companion app, the IFruit. It was nothing more then an a glorfied Tamagotchi game only your feeding your dog so he can have better snooping skills. I didn’t find it necessary to do this app thankfully.
Hey guys! I had to take a break from posting comments with all that new-gen stuff going around…
It’s great to have Paul back. His sarcasm and no-bullshit approach to the news items and his fellow podcasters add a lot to the show 😉
Let me add my 2 cents to the boss battle discussion. In the past I usually didn’t have a problem with them but the more I play the more I dread the inevitable final boss battle in some of the games. I hated the final battle in Killzone: Mercenary. Ultimately, I wasn’t able to complete all the contracts on the highest difficulty settings and I simply gave up.
On the other hand, in games such as Resogun or Super Stardust, the boss fights add a lot to the titles. It’s like Paul said – there’s nothing wrong with the boss battles intrinsically but sometimes the implementation blows.
As far as the QOTW goes, my ‘smartphone’ is not so smart anymore and most of the companion apps don’t work on it. My only 2nd screen experience so far has been the PS Vita Remote Play with the PS4 and I really enjoy it, although it’s not really 2nd screen. It also has this functionality but there’s nothing to use it with at this point. The Vita is similar to the WiiU in that your 2nd screen is also a controller so it should work as a gaming companion and I can see myself using it in the future.
I know that Knack has a companion app that is a Bejeweled-style game. The one thing I don’t really get is why they don’t release those same apps on the Vita.
By the way, since Dan is enjoying Tearaway so much, maybe he’ll also enjoy my blog post on it – http://playstationpalo.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/platinum-tracker-tearaway-29 😉 Shameless plug FTW !