Rumors float around the Internet questioning when Microsoft will ship a Blu-ray enabled Xbox 360 or add-on device like they did with the, now failed, HD-DVD. At CES 09 Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s Entertainment & Devices division, says this request is “way down the list.”
Mr. Bach had some great selling points as to why a Blu-ray player has little value in the world of Xbox 360. The primary reason, of course, being the Xbox 360 developers cannot take advantage of Blu-ray as a development platform for games. This was the price Sony, or the consumer, paid to own a PlayStation 3 since all games are printed on the media and are, in effect, Blu-ray “capable.”
We say capable because not all (any?) PlayStation 3 games currently make full use of the Blu-ray media. Many games will reprint the game on the media for optimization purposes, fill the game with international voice overs for all countries or, otherwise, stuff the media with something that will serve a useful purpose. Sony has near-future-proofed their device by giving game developers years of growth in terms of utilizing the Blu-ray capacity.
Microsoft chose to take the smaller old-style DVD format for games and media. Adding the HD-DVD didn’t add a large deal of risk because, as we saw, they can discontinue the model and not change their core gaming demographic. We still laughed a bit at them, but that was where it ended. Bach also said that it’s not really a great economic time to push a new 360 SKU on potential customers with additional cost just for Blu-ray movies playback.
They could add Blu-ray game development support as well but that would just alienate the “28 million Xboxes” they have already shipped.
“OK, let me get this straight: I’m going to add something to the product that’s going to raise the cost, which means the price goes up, consumers aren’t asking for it, and by the way, my game developers can’t use it.” (gamespot)
Of course, the first thing that came to our mind was “well, you did it for HD-DVD, how is Blu-ray different?” The key areas we can think of really come down to Blu-ray is a Sony technology and they are a direct competitor and, to top it off, HD-DVD allowed them to fight against the PS3 at the media level of the industry. They minimized the risk by making the product a secondary add-on device and, if HD-DVD had won, they’d have the winning format already under production (still not for games).
It seems Microsoft has changed their battle plans a little. They started out talking up the media aspects of the 360, using Media Center, renting movies and TV shows and had the HD-DVD as a subproduct. Today, they’re investing in Netflix for media and everything else favors the games.
Which is fine, we like games.
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@No PSN unless you waive lawsuit
On the behalf of the PC community, we welcome all PS3 players to join us :P. Or play SP games only, assuming that the SP games don’t require a PSN connection.
My guess is: the network is not safe, and they [Sony] don’t plan to fix it any time soon, so they don’t plan to play nice. Something evil this way comes, at least for PSN customers.
Jonah, pipe down 🙂 …
@DC Universe Online goes free-to-play
Peer-to-peer MMOs + free-to-play may be the only way for small devs to start off an MMO.
As for free-to-play as the single business model in the futire, dunno. If the game is stunning, people will pay.
@Microsoft: Xbox TV this Fall
So basically competition to Netflix and Hulu. The more the merrier, if you ask me.
@Rogers Cable ordered to stop throttling gamers
Throttling is cheaper than replacing lines with ones of a higher capacity. I find it weird though that a third party entity orders a cable company how to do their business. It should be the customers, voting with their wallets that do that.
@Nintendo and Valve say no to smartphone games
Dunno about your explanation Jonah. Valve didn’t mind doing games for PS3, Mac and it is now pushing Steam for XBox 360.
One thing that I keep ‘feeling’ about Valve is that they’re understaffed: between making games and improving Steam, they might actually lack the resources to move to that market.
Oh Paul … everybody dies at one point or another, and we have little control over it.
@QOTW:
Well, the very first one I played is WWF: Royal Rumble, on the Sega Genesis.
Hi, fairly new listener here. I came across you while searching for a decent podcast about games, but couldn’t find one that I actually liked. I finally found your podcast, which is very enjoyable, especially because of the chemistry going on, you work well together.
@DC Universe going free-to-play: I think that all these MMOs going f2p is a good sign because it shows companies that they could make more profit if they stop trying to get loads of money upfront and instead gain the loyalty of their customers.
@Nintendo and Valve saying no to smartphone games: For both their businesses, I think it’s best that they want to focus on products for their platforms only. I remember Nintendo once saying that they don’t consider smartphone games to be “true” games, and I don’t think they will contradict themselves too soon.
Oh and to Paul: I know where you’re coming from with all this want of hate-mail. I have this “problem” myself too. It’s just a need you have after being so nice to people and receiving only praise. I haven’t yet received any hate, even after having asked for it, and so I won’t give you that satisfaction either.
No PSN for you! – Congrats on breaking the story guys, too bad you didn’t get the recognition you deserve, but us listeners know the truth, if that means anything at all. I am glad that this was actually pointed out, and its so hard to believe that a big company like Sony cares more for their wallets than their customers. GASP
Qwikster – It seems like a reasonable decision, people wanted games, and that’s what they are giving. The only thing that I could see being a problem is the price. I know GameFly charges 23 dollars a month which is too much for me, but if Qwikster can do the same thing GameFly does but cheaper, I will definitely be utilizing this feature.
Xbox TV – It seems that the Xbox is going to be an all around entertainment system rather than a gaming platform. They just keep on adding features to it, and if they had one the HDDVD vs. Blu-Ray wars, they PS3 would be dead. For only 200 dollars you can get one, and then you can pick and choose what features you want to pay for. Microsoft has handled this console well, even when your console fails, they fix it and send it back with a 1 Month Gold Subscription, they are doing everything right in my eyes.
No Smartphone Games from Nintendo – I think that the main reason that they aren’t doing this is that they don’t want to be giving anything to their competitors. It has been said many times that the DS’s main competitor is the iPhone, and if Nintendo were to give content to them, they would be taking money out of their own pockets. In my opinion, it was a good decision to stay away from smartphones, in Nintendo’s case.
QOTW – The first game I can remember playing would be Doom. Their is also the N64 games, but Doom seems to be pretty prevalent in my mind when it comes to the first. I can still map out the first chapter’s levels in my mind.
Super question, but I don`t think that I remember…
QOTW – My vanilla answer to this question is Super Mario Brothers for the NES on my 4th Birthday. I kept running full speed ahead on level 1-2 hoping to beat the koopa troopa to the low hanging formation of blocks only to run right into him every time. It took the older neighbor to teach me how to actually play video games before I learned my lesson. Alas, I’ve retained this bullhead, brute-force strategy to gaming to this day. I suck at video games unfortunately.