Rumors float around the Internet questioning when Microsoft will ship a Blu-ray enabled Xbox 360 or add-on device like they did with the, now failed, HD-DVD. At CES 09 Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s Entertainment & Devices division, says this request is “way down the list.”
Mr. Bach had some great selling points as to why a Blu-ray player has little value in the world of Xbox 360. The primary reason, of course, being the Xbox 360 developers cannot take advantage of Blu-ray as a development platform for games. This was the price Sony, or the consumer, paid to own a PlayStation 3 since all games are printed on the media and are, in effect, Blu-ray “capable.”
We say capable because not all (any?) PlayStation 3 games currently make full use of the Blu-ray media. Many games will reprint the game on the media for optimization purposes, fill the game with international voice overs for all countries or, otherwise, stuff the media with something that will serve a useful purpose. Sony has near-future-proofed their device by giving game developers years of growth in terms of utilizing the Blu-ray capacity.
Microsoft chose to take the smaller old-style DVD format for games and media. Adding the HD-DVD didn’t add a large deal of risk because, as we saw, they can discontinue the model and not change their core gaming demographic. We still laughed a bit at them, but that was where it ended. Bach also said that it’s not really a great economic time to push a new 360 SKU on potential customers with additional cost just for Blu-ray movies playback.
They could add Blu-ray game development support as well but that would just alienate the “28 million Xboxes” they have already shipped.
“OK, let me get this straight: I’m going to add something to the product that’s going to raise the cost, which means the price goes up, consumers aren’t asking for it, and by the way, my game developers can’t use it.” (gamespot)
Of course, the first thing that came to our mind was “well, you did it for HD-DVD, how is Blu-ray different?” The key areas we can think of really come down to Blu-ray is a Sony technology and they are a direct competitor and, to top it off, HD-DVD allowed them to fight against the PS3 at the media level of the industry. They minimized the risk by making the product a secondary add-on device and, if HD-DVD had won, they’d have the winning format already under production (still not for games).
It seems Microsoft has changed their battle plans a little. They started out talking up the media aspects of the 360, using Media Center, renting movies and TV shows and had the HD-DVD as a subproduct. Today, they’re investing in Netflix for media and everything else favors the games.
Which is fine, we like games.
The Japanese government has not allowed PlayStation Network to be activated for Japanese gamers yet due to security concerns, and now an expert is advising Australia to follow suit.
I think the pixie diamonds contest was not endorsed by Disney … o they sent their goons after Paul 😛
Joking aside, I hope all is well with him.
@Duck Tales
That game managed to do several things well, one of them being indeed the multiple uses of the cane and the non linear gameplay. The sound track is also very good.
By the way, I did play both of them on the NES, and both of them were on the same level of quality.
@Pachter’s opinion about Wii U
The issue with Pachter is that he doesn’t have a good track record when it comes to predictions …
He does have a point about tablets and smartphones though about competing for the same market. Hmm … It could be that this is the first time when he might actually be right.
Regarding Nintendo making a profit from the 3DS, hmm …
@Bethesda hiring talent for Xbox 720, PlayStation 4 game
Well, all these rumors hint at a DirectX 11 (or equivalent) console. Jordan, good point on using ports of older games for the initial launch.
As for Bethesda’s new title, other people think at Fallout 4.
@Pachter: Next generation Sony and Microsoft consoles will have 4GB SKU
This makes sense. Heck, even 8 GB makes sense, performance wise. The PC built for my brother in 2008 was equipped with 4GB of RAM in order to give it a long life span. I repeat, in 2008.
I guess 4GB of RAM will be cheap enough for consoles in 2013.
@Sony filed patent For Kinect-like motion device:
Erm, they’re pretty late to the party, about two platforms and two years late. I mean what, waving the magic wand of Move didn’t produce the desired (financial) results?
Regarding Alan Wakwe, you say piracy is the issue? Then why bother launching on PC at all? I mean is the cost of porting the game worth it for such a platform 😛 ?
Sorry for not writing in perfect English all the time, I normally write these comments in a hurry. Today I’m going to take my time and proof-read it.
@First off, I am not a Nintendo fanboy, but Michael Patcher has gotten my blood boiling with this statement.
“I think Nintendo … [have] completely blown the Wii U by not telling people what the price is going to be … [and] I think they’re dead anyway because Xbox with Kinect will be priced below that by the time they launch.”: Since when has any new console released been cheaper than the discounted price of the previous consoles? (Maybe there is an exception but I doubt it) And about people not knowing the price beforehand: most of the people who know about the WiiU are the ones who know about E3 and will probably buy it on launch or never intend to buy it whatever its price. The rest won’t even know about WiiU until next summer when the price is confirmed and the advertisements start rolling out.
“… the decline in Wii and DS hardware and software sales drove them into generating LOSSES. For those of you who aren’t financial analysts, losses mean that the company is worth less than it was before.” : For starters, I know what losses are, you don’t need to be a professional financial analyst to know that. Secondly, there was obviously going to be a decline of hardware and software sales after the millions upon millions of Wii’s sold. Everyone, even Nintendo, knew that it would be impossible to keep the sales rising after a couple of years. Maybe they aren’t in the best position right now, but that is nowhere near an indication to how successful the WiiU will be.
And finally: “If the context above infuriates you, go back to school and pay attention, then read it again” : Screw you Michael and your smug face. Just because it infuriated me doesn’t mean that I didn’t understand it.
I’ve written too much, so I’m going to cut it short. The final thing I want to comment on is when you mentioned that Nintendo doesn’t admit to their mistakes. For that, I would like you to remind you of when the 3DS wasn’t making enough money. They admitted that they had priced it too high and Iwata took a 50% cut from his own salary.
That’s enough ranting for today. I hope that Paul’s alright, and if he is, I hope that he agrees with me.
Except Pachter isn’t predicting anything. These are facts: Nintendo stock has plummeted 80% in the last year. Wii software doesn’t sell, and hasn’t ever sold, with few exceptions. Many major third party titles often sell under 100k, and some that you’d expect to sell through the roof crash and burn (ie Punchout, Monster Hunter Tri, etc)
The 3ds is number 1
They sold the most software and hardware last year
They are fine.
The ds fails, the wii fails is what he says
@Jonah Falcon
Stock falls all the time, and goes up
Wii software doesnt sell and has never sold?
What are you smoking?
Wii games are the top selling games of the gen
Monster hunter tri was the fastest selling third party wii game ever, and according to capcom was a huge success
… Fastest selling? It sold 500K in North America in its entire lifetime. You know how many units Modern Warfare 3 sold on the Xbox 360 alone on its first day?
Stocks may rise and fall, but not 80%.
So every game has to sell like cod?
wii fit sold 50 million units.
Is that the standard all games should sell?
Pokemon white black sold 15 million units on a single system.
Is that the standard?
Did it sell as much as COD? ( monster hunter wii?)
no
but it doesnt have to
“Stocks may rise and fall, but not 80%.”
You might want to look at microsoft and sony financials over the years.
The horror show there is about the equivalent.
And Nintendo’s stock has been on the rise again recently. They will be profitable this year. The first 2 months of the year they have sold the most hardware and software worldwide, you cant do better
Again we dont know how the wii u wil do, like we dont know how any system will ultimately do
The wii u needs to be priced at 200-400 range
It needs to have a first party major title at launch
and then we can only see
We need Paul back to balance out all the Nintendo bashing going on during the podcast!
But seriously, a lot of people have been very critical and negative of Nintendo and their future recently, and yes, their finances aren’t in the greatest shape at the moment, but the 3DS has bounced back strongly from a disappointing start and we really don’t know enough about the Wii U to accurately predict it’s popularity and performance.
Meanwhile, Sony are in pretty bad shape financially too, but it doesn’t seem like many people are talking about that… I want to hear Michael Pachter’s predictions for Sony!
Anyway, rant over. Hope to see a three-man podcast next episode!
“And Nintendo’s stock has been on the rise again recently. ”
Huh?!?! No, it’s been dropping. Where are you getting this?
YES! FICTITIOUS CURRENCY ACQUIRED!
@WiiU
true… nintendo bubble has burst and will take a lot of work to get back to their feet (stocks)
@Bethesda hiring for future gen
oh boy! it’s comming! cant wait for 2013 even if i am not a console player, i might became one if is worth it =]
@psn mini not working on vita
common sony, you had a lot of fails in 2011 and 2012 already began with you in shame… you need to step it up!
@Paul
i guess when paul said “OMG, you made the 10yo joke (jordan – WIIIIIIIIII), im not talking to you anymore, im unfriending you on facebook” he was serious 0.o
hope you are here today! you make 33% of the podcast weight!
exams are ruining my schedule ,,just to let u guys know that I’m still alive and wanting those pixie stuff so I could give it to my friend,since I’m the only one wanting to have them lol